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This would provide a temporary solution for those times when we don't have a PC with WL7 desktop installed handy for checking strategy signals. We could simply copy and paste code from private cloud storage into a window and run. Voila?? (Assuming the confidentiality of the code could be assured).

NB: I'm not suggesting saving the code in WebBuilder, just allowing pasted code to run in order to check strategy signals.
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#1
Sorry it's not feasible. It's not just because of the builder in WebBuilder which implies Building Blocks. But for the purposes of security we cannot allow unverified code to run on our servers.
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#2
You mean if it was open to the public, folks would dump any old junk in there?

What if you required a login to verify the user as a current WL7 customer?
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#3
The WebBuilder is not designed to be a replacement for WL7. It's an entry level tool for beginners that does not support such core features as the wide choice of data providers, custom DataSets, optimization variables, multi-position, extensions, etc.
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This would provide a temporary solution for those times when we don't have a PC with WL7 desktop installed handy for checking strategy signals.

And the correct and robust solution for this should be renting a VPS to run your code there. It's covered by the subscription allowing to run Wealth-Lab 7 on two devices. Of course, no limitations apply as you can power it with any extensions and data.
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I see. So the web version is simply a marketing tool? A kind of "try before you buy" to help sell desktop software subscriptions?
Reading between the lines, is it fair to assume there is no plan to develop a fully-functioning web-based version within the next 2-5 years?
If I may be so bold, who do you see as WealthLab's direct competitors? If you prefer not to say, then can you say whether they have a web-first development strategy?
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#6
Aso you may know, WL.com had code based web Strategies back in the year 2000 when it was first launched. But we don't have any short term plans to add it to our new WL7 web builder, our focus is desktop-first, not web-first, for backtesting.
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I see, Glitch. Thanks for clarifying.
Don't get me wrong, I love WealthLab. Invested a *lot* of time in it and have some strategies that I absolutely love. That's enough for me. I was as happy as a pig in mud ...
... until the ground shifted from beneath my feet when Fidelity changed course.
Maybe I'm wrong, but surely not all of the thousands of customers you inherited from Fidelity were coding gurus? In which case, here we are, struggling to convert code with a two-page diagram to help us.
Then you create Web-Builder, and I'm thinking, wow, bravo, this is the future, surely. Not fully functional at present, of course, but it has mainstream written all over it. And mainstream means lots of new customers, and the means to increase resources to improve holistically.
But, with what you're now saying, your future direction is not to go after the mainstream user, but to focus on a niche market of ever-growing feature complexity?
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#8
We will try and do both, I believe we can advance on both fronts. The top #FeatureRequest now is one that I submitted myself, an idea to create a new tool that will very much help non-coders. But we have a small team and cannot spread our focus across many things at once.
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#9
Ok, I misread the intentions of the "trading system with a few clicks".
To me, it sounds like a black box of AI neural-networks, with genetic-evolution, co-linear inputs, and R-squared optimization!
Yep, has mainstream written all over it ;)
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@da42007
Please look here for QuickRef 6.9 posts;
https://www.wealth-lab.com/Discussion/QuickRef-6-9-and-side-by-side-code-samples-7254
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And the correct and robust solution for this should be renting a VPS to run your code there.


Eugene,
How can a VPS be the "correct" way to run WL through a browser?
Do you have any suggestions on VPS provider? Have you tried this? Is it laggy and cumbersome to use? Say you were using an iPad, are you telling me VPS is the way to go compared with a seamless software like WebBuilder?
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#12
I hear you when you say desktop-first design is your development strategy. That is clearly a key part of your product vision.
For anyone who has time-tested strategies in 6.9, there is no functional reason to migrate to 7. But a browser-based cloud solution offers several additional advantages:

flexible access from any device with a browser
increased mobility
loss prevention
seamless product updates
increased ease of automation (e.g., run on a schedule without the need to keep a laptop powered on all the time)
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#13
VPS / dedicated server is way to run one's trading setup in a robust, supported environment without WB's restrictions. The WebBuilder has never been envisioned as a backup tool for WL7 that facilitates usage in a browser, runs on schedule and this kind of things.
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#14
The opportunity to openly contribute opinions and ideas is a wonderful thing.
It was tremendous fun to see a wishlist request implemented the very next day. Truly awesome—I'm using B.39 now and the collapsible blocks make a big difference to the usability.
What is also valuable for customers is to gain insights into your product vision and strategy.
You say WebBuilder was never envisioned to be a full product, and yet you also articulate interest in targeting mainstream users.
So let me ask you this, if I may.
What does your market research tell you about what mainstream users want?
It's hard to imagine Millennials and GenZ preferring desktop windows software to web-based cloud software. Are they not your "mainstream" market for the next couple of decades?
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