Ask Glitch! Technical questions about Wealth-Lab 5.0 (only)
Author: Cone
Creation Date: 11/20/2007 12:20 PM
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Cone

#1
We're going to add a new section to the website devoted to technical Questions and Answers about Wealth-Lab Version 5.0 (.NET) called "Ask Glitch!".

We'll start collecting questions now, pass them to Glitch for answers, and we'll post his answers in a new Ask Glitch section.
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Cone

#2
For the benefit of newcomers who may not know, Glitch is Dion Kurczek, founder of Wealth-Lab, Inc. Last year Dion joined Fidelity as V.P. of Product Development, and with Wealth-Lab 5.0 he's making good on his "read-between-the-lines" promise in this June 2006 communication to Wealth-Lab users.
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johnjan

#3
Where is this section?

Here are some questions:

1. Is there APIs to select a primary symbol and a watchlist from the script? ( a complement or improvement over current WatchListSelect ).

2. Is there going to be concept of linked charts like [url=/Forum/Posts/moving-crosshair-on-two-charts-simulaneously-25818]
moving crosshair on two charts simulaneously [/url]
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Cone

#4
<< Where is this section? >>

We'll add the section after Glitch provides us with the first installment... which will address Wealth-Lab 5.0's Strategy File Format.
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MikeCaron

#5
Visual Studio 2008 was released on Nov. 19. Will WL 5 support VS 2008? Also, what product package do you recommend for C# development? Unfortunately I could not find a feature grid comparing the products. It looks like Express Edition might be the minimal product that could work. The Standard Edition is the next level up.
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johnjan

#6
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daronow

#7
Any hints on when it will be available (other than "soon" :P)?
And can we see some screenshots yet?

Will most (all?) of the existing code library and indicators posted by users be incorporated as "native" functions (native as in not coded by users)? Things such as Hull Moving Average, and the newer functions for example from TASC that Cone has written)?

Will the Wealth-Lab.com website remain in WL4 (pascal) syntax or will it be converted to C#?

How long will WL4 be supported for users who don't want to learn C# (not that I think anyone should do this, but if someone doesn't want to, will they still be supported)?

Will all the timeframe compression options be retained (so you can test a daily trading system using intraday data for example)?

Will the new APIs support only .net code or will they also be exposed via COM Interop for those who choose to program in non-.net languages (for example someone may choose to use native C++ for really CPU intensive code)?

Are any items in the feature request list implemented in WL5 that were not previously implemented? If so, which ones (so we can drool)?
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Cone

#8
I know Glitch won't have time to look through over 400 feature requests, and even though I don't either, I was interested enough to take a quick pass through it... I think these items are sufficiently addressed:

By virtue of .NET...
Support for multi-threading CPU environment
File handling functions
More colors for drawing in chart
Date math
GetSecond function (DateTime object)

Editor-related
More functionalities in the Chartscript Editor (most)
Better ChartScript (Strategy) Printing
Editor search and replace enhancements

Data Management and Yahoo!
Data update scheduling
German ASCII Date format support
Support for Yahoo Premium Account
Specify exchange for Yahoo! DataSets
... and no Refreshes required for Yahoo! dividend-adjusted data

Charting
Right Justify Parameter for AnnotateChart
Save Chart GIF (and all other image formats)
Quarterly and annual scales
Right space in Charts - PadBars() method

WealthScript
Function to return all Active/Inactive Positions
DataSeries Description and selective cache clearing
Position.EntryOrderType and Position.ExitOrderType
Selectable EMA mode
Allow multiple pieces of data to be stored with each Position (Tag Property)
ClearDebug() function

Environment and other
Intraday scaling for $imulations (now called Multi-Symbol Backtest)
Streaming backfill by date
Sliders for Strategy Parameters
Quick Symbol Entry Mode from chart window
Launch to Default Workspace
Drag and drop indicator pairs (e.g., BBands)
Pairs Scripts in $imulator (now called Strategy Window)
Clear error and debug windows
Alt+F to File menu
Access to symbol data in an Indicator Library
User Settings in a single file
Eliminate the often time-consuming 'Aligning Data' process
Separate Indicators dialog for plotting
Faster RT Scans (Strategy Monitor tool)


Note! For those who didn't make the Traders' Expo, I don't want you to be shocked that Wealth-Lab 5.0 won't be a complete replacement for Version 4.0 at Release 1 - the Optimizer is not there yet, for example.
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johnjan

#9
nice!!!

Where is the beta version? Beta testers are waiting....
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reds

#10
What are the plans for the Optimizer? Any algorithms besides MonteCarlo & Exhaustive?

Thanks,

Mike
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dec

#11
>Note! For those who didn't make the Traders' Expo, I don't want you to be shocked that Wealth-Lab 5.0 won't be a complete replacement for Version 4.0 at Release 1 - the Optimizer is not there yet, for example.


What about the AnalyzeSeries function, is that going to be in the first release of 5.0?
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psu

#12
http://wl4.wealth-lab.com/cgi-bin/WealthLab.DLL/kbase?id=26

When a new bar is ready ...

1. Add the new bar(s) using the Add method of the IWealthLabRTUpdate3 instance.

IWealthLabRTUpdate3 doesn't have this method isn't it?
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Cone

#13
"Ask Glitch" is reserved for technical questions about Wealth-Lab 5.0. (I'll make this more clear in the title now.)
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psu

#14
Isn't programming a technical stuff?
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Cone

#15
Sure, but the interfaces that you're referring to are not applicable to Version 5.0 (.NET).
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johnjan

#16
Please make all system classes inheritable and methods virtual, so that we can override them if required ;)
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gammaarray

#17
I never managed to write a script that works to do this properly..

/Forum/Posts/Sell-All-open-positions-for-all-symbols-based-on-net-open-profit-26275


Would writing such a script be easier algorithmically using the new tool.. or much the same..



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denoving

#18
I assume that 5.0 will be a stand alone program, and that I won't be required to purchase visual studio .net to run the program.

Is this a valid assumption?

Also, when is it anticipated that Fidelity will field version 5.0 ?

regards,
Dan
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Eugene

#19
I assume that 5.0 will be a stand alone program, and that I won't be required to purchase visual studio .net to run the program.

Is this a valid assumption?


Yes, it's going to work out of the box. Installing VS 2008 Express or SharpDevelop which are free isn't required too.
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denoving

#20
Is it anticipated that Fidelity will make version 5.0 available Q1 2008? or later in 2008?

Or is the timeframe of initial fielding for 5.0 still being considered and deliberated?

regards,
Dan
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Cone

#21
We can't comment on precise Fidelity release dates... but you can expect it sometime between tomorrow and the end of January.
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pj0ta

#22
Will anything be added that will help me get symbols and data for expired symbols, and to get a bit more history (say 15-20 years)?

Looks interesting.
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Cone

#23
No - at least not intentionally.

You can get more than 20 years of history with Yahoo! right now.
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redliontrader

#24
Not sure if this has been asked.

Can WL 5 co-exist with WL 4 on the same system?

(and both function)


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Eugene

#25
Can WL 5 co-exist with WL 4 on the same system?

Yes.

(and both function)

Yes.
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pj0ta

#26
The trouble is getting expired symbols and data from either Fidelity or Yahoo.

I already switched off Fidelity to Yahoo for the extra years data. I will go wherever I can get the best historical picture.
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denoving

#27
Is a documentation [user guide] release planned in advance of the software?

Presumably since the scripting language is based on c#, one will have much more power for data analysis, plus for sharing presumably there will be greater opportunity to share software functionality at a "lower level of hierarchy" than with WL4.

Reusability should be greatly enhanced with the OOP features.

Gee, I'm getting excited about the possilibities.

Having things speed up 10x also sounds very attractive.

Will there be the capability to process datasources [ to remove invalid / expired ticker symbol data ] ? I think if the hooks are provided, the community will produce the tool.

Maybe Fidelity could fix it at their end?

regards,
dan
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Cone

#28
<< [user guide] release planned in advance of the software? >>

No, it will be shipped together.

<< Will there be the capability to process datasources [ to remove invalid / expired ticker symbol data ] ? >>

Why wouldn't you keep old data in case you wanted to use it some time in the future for testing?
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mulliinv

#29
I spoke with a Fidelity rep last night, because I had some issues with ATP. While resolving the issues I asked him about the release of the new WLP. He indicated that the new version of WLP will be coming out this evening.
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Cone

#30
Don't count on that, but [almost] for sure it's coming before the end of January!
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jsmith2007z

#31
I just called Fidelity, and was told that they had expected it to be available today, but ran into a problem. They don't yet have an estimate as to when it will be available.
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slow_learner

#32
Hi,

Any news on what new features will be put in place to support forex (for example, the ability to backtest currency trading systems for currencies pairs that don't have the USD as a base? or support for calculating the cost of carry?)

Also will the problems with the eSignal data feed be fixed (currently some end of day prices have the wrong date on them)?

Will back testing be able to access lower timeframe data when running a back test, so that the back test will more accurately simulate entries and exits?

What will happen to existing tools such as reports lab, monte carlo lab, neurolab, R plugins, etc?

Will simulating money management strategies such as equity curve cross overs / cross unders be more easily implemented?

thanks, SL
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Cone

#33
We're still not getting any questions of a technical nature for Glitch, so I'll just handle these...

<< what new features will be put in place to support forex >>

None. Forex isn't on the Wealth-Lab radar yet.

<< Also will the problems with the eSignal data feed be fixed (currently some end of day prices have the wrong date on them)? >>

Let me make it clear that these are eSignal's problems for not continuing to support their component that Wealth-Lab used to integrate their feed. (Their own data component is returning the wrong date for data - depending on your time zone.) But, yes, the problems will automatically be fixed since a newer eSignal component will be used in Version 5.0.

Also, everyone will be happy to know that "native" data providers are a thing of the past. In Version 5.0, if any Provider breaks (Y!, MSN, eSignal, etc.) due to a server change, an update can be released without relying on a new build of Wealth-Lab.

<< Will back testing be able to access lower timeframe data

Even Wealth-Lab 4 can access ticks. How much lower can you go?

<< What will happen to existing tools such as reports lab, monte carlo lab, neurolab, R plugins, etc? >>

Nothing - you can still use them with Version 4. New Version of all tools will need to be created over time.

<< Will simulating money management strategies such as equity curve cross overs / cross unders be more easily implemented? >>

No - it won't even be possible to program these Strategies in Version 5.0. Trading strategies will always be processed in raw profit mode (like the $imulator today). The only access to equity, cash, and the like will be in PosSizers (new name for SimuScripts). PosSizers, however, are not ready for Release 1.
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slow_learner

#34
thanks for the reply.

I think I may have rephrased one of the questions badly

<< Will back testing be able to access lower timeframe data >>

what I meant to ask was, if I am back testing at a higher time frame, can the back tester access lower time frame data to more accurately simulate entries and exits. for example if I have a script written for end of day style trading but I have access to lower time frame data, can I run a back test using this data to more accurately simulate entries and exits (without the need to rewrite the script to simulate end of day trading using lower time frame data)?
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Cone

#35
I'm having a big problem visualizing how having access to data at a lower scale would be more accurate for testing an end-of-day strategy.

The only thing I can think of is that you're referring to Position Priority for stop and limit orders. There aren't any built-in provisions for that in Release 1.
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daronow

#36
Cone,

I think what he's getting at is for example given an EOD system with both a buy stop and sell stop on the same bar, to know which would hit first (if both prices are hit) and trade accordingly. The only way to do that now is to use intraday data and compress it (unless you use a tool like DrKoch's idbars or the original TIntraday study).
I'm just guessing this is what he's getting at though.

Dave

P.S. Where are those screenshots? ;)
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Cone

#37
That's just what I meant by Position Priority for stop and limit orders. As you point out, the only way to properly assign priority to those strategies is by time of trade.

I can't post any screenshots until the release... but then you'll be able to take the real thing for a test drive. :)
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slow_learner

#38
Hi Cone,

I was refering to a feature in Metatrader 4, which I havent seen an equivalent in wealthlab.

In MT4 they have three history data modeling methods can be chosen for testing:

    Open prices only (fastest method to analyze the bar just completed). Some mechanical trading systems do not depend on properties of modeling within a bar, they trade on completed bars. The bar is completed if the next one has appeared. These are such experts for which this modeling method was developed. In this mode, the bar opening is modeled first (Open = High = Low = Close, Volume=1) what allows the expert to identify the completion of the preceding bar precisely. It is this incipient bar that is used to start testing of the expert. At the next step, the fully completed current bar will be given, but no testing is performed on it.

    Control points (based on the nearest less timeframe with fractal interpolation of 12 control points) The control points modeling method is intended for a crude estimate of experts efficiency that trade within the bar. The history data of the nearest less timeframe must be available to apply this method. In the most cases, the available data of the less timeframe do not completely cover the time range of the timeframe under test. If the data of the less timeframe are missing, the further bar development will be generated on close prices of 12 preceding bars. It means that the changes within the bar are the same as those of price within the last 12 periods. It is fractal interpolation. As soon as history data of the less timeframe appear, fractal interpolation will be applied to these new data. But there will be used not 12, but just 6 preceding bars. It means that really existing Open, High, Low, Close prices are reproduced, and two generated prices more. Values and locations of these two generated prices depend on that on 6 preceding bars.

    Every tick (based on all available least timeframes with fractal interpolation of every tick) This is the most accurate method of modeling prices within a bar. Unlike that of "control points", this method uses for generation not only data of the nearest less timeframe, but also those of all available nearest timeframes. At that, if there are data of more than one period for the same timeframe at the same time, the data of the least timeframe will be used for modeling. Like in the preceding method, control points are generated by fractal interpolation. It is also used for modeling of price changes between control points. It is possible that several similar ticks are modeled one after another. In this case, the doubled quotes will be filtered out, and the volume of the last of them will be fixed.


Note that this isn't a feature I am really looking for, I was just wondering if wealthlab was picking up some of the other features I had seen on other platforms.
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Cone

#39
Seems to me that Wealth-Lab had these features in Version 2.1. I don't have time to look into MT4, but it sounds like their "expert" is what we call "ChartScripts". ChartScripts trade based on models that you create.
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Eugene

#40
The expert models actually look like C-based chartscripts. The functionality slow_learner is talking about (in pictures) is present in Dr.Koch's IDBars addon.

P.S. Sorry for clogging the topic.
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Weeorphan

#41
Weeorphan says: I'm completely new to WealthLab and awaiting the version 5 also, hoping its not so geek-biased. My forays into the current version were discouraging. for instance, I wanted to use a Slow Stochastic or Full Stochastic and found myself struggling with atypical charts of these. STockcharts.com has nice user-friendly, easy fill-in-the-blank parameter slots, and draws nicely shapely stochastics with proper crossovers. Wealthlab has a steep learning curve that i may never negotiate, and does a poor job of drawing a stochastic. Does a decent Chartscript exist for both of these common indicators on Wealth-Lab.com. and if so how do I find it and download for use in my studies? Forgive me for being so green at this, but everybody's got to start somewhere.
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denoving

#42
Back on Dec. 12th, there was the exchange with cone....

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me.....
<< Will there be the capability to process datasources [ to remove invalid / expired ticker symbol data ] ? >>

cone.....
Why wouldn't you keep old data in case you wanted to use it some time in the future for testing?
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After re-reading that exchange..........

I can see that what I really meant to ask was, will there be the capability to remove ticker symbols from a list based on the most recent data [to remove obsolete tickers from that particular list, or perhaps to put them into another list - of expired symbols].

Reason why I would want to remove that data is so I don't have to disracted by bizarre results caused by results of incomplete datasets.

regards,
Dan
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Eugene

#43
Dan,

It's pretty easy to detect such "stale" data in strategy code, and then you'll create a new DataSet free of obsolete symbols.
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denoving

#44
Eugene:

How would one go about....detect[ing] such "stale" data in strategy code?

Could you give me a hand?

I've written about 300 scripts, some of them somewhat complex IMHO, and I understand the script [strategy] language pretty well, but I don't have a clue how I could figure out if the date of barcount-1 price datapoint is more than a few days back from todays date.

I assume that is what you would do to detect "stale" data.

So, please, clue me in, and thanks for your response.

[I suppose this should be in a separate thread - sorry about that after I get eugene's or somebody elses response I'll drop this branch of discussion or transfer it to another new thread]

regards and best wishes,
Dan



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Eugene

#45
For example, see Robert's idea here.
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gammaarray

#46
3 Questions..

1- Are simuscripts treated the same.. ie. can standard position sizing selections and simuscripts be combined.

2- Is there a feature were global data can set via scripts once and be accessed by other scripts given that .net may provide some facilities with this.

3- Is there a facility to defined multiple run types where script, options, selections, position size, data sources can be predefined for a give run type..and perhaps results of last run can be accessed as well.

I know that these look like feature requests but they were not possible given the structure of the current wealthlab.. I am justing trying to see what I can be looking forward to as possible features given a new platform.

Is there anything wrong with this type of question.. then tell me.. rather than not answering it.. thanks
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Cone

#47
1 - SimuScripts will be called PosSizers, but they're not ready for Release 1. Apart from that, I don't understand the concept of combining "standard position sizing selections and simuscripts". What's that all about, and why can't you do it now with SimuScripts?

2 - Version 5 is .NET. I can't think of any limitations. If you can do it in .NET, you can do it in Wealth-Lab Version 5. Keep in mind that Wealth-Lab 5 and WealthScript are completely new and that all the automation features that you're used to right now won't be immediately available, and other less-popular and misunderstood tools (like the Evaluator) will be subject to attrition.

3 - Yes. In Advanced Options you'll be able to select for Strategies to open with the same DataSet/Symbol, Scale, Data Range, Position Size, and/or "Parameter Values" as the last run.
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gammaarray

#48
Thanks for the reply.. sounds like things are going exactly in the direction that I was hoping..

1- for the wealthlab 3 that I have here, I have to choose between a menu based options and simuscripts option so if I choose the simuscript then I have to define the position sizes manually.. so I was hoping that the compile option would provide a faster execution and therefore possibility of allowing simuscripts to run on top of menu options given an override or no-override selection..

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redliontrader

#49
Any updates as to possible release dates yet?
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tomclark

#50
Found this on the Fidility site a couple of day ago. I guess this is the beginnings of their web-based effort.

http://eresearch.fidelity.com/backtesting/landing
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novendeh

#51
This URL also works, and it sure looks like WL.

http://eresearch.fidelity.com/backtesting

Works nice for non WL users and easier to change years of back testing.
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daronow

#52
Wow the tests on that website absolutely fly. Less than a second for a five year test of one of the canned systems. Over-optimization, here I come!
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gammaarray

#53
For Version 5

Please consider a position sizing method (via a factor) as a function of number of elements in the chosen watchlist.. ie: (watchlistcount * factor).. as it is now, watchlistcount can not be accessed via simuscript.

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redliontrader

#54
Will WL 5 support tick charts?

Will Fidelity support tick charts
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Eugene

#55
Yes.
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Cone

#56
Version 5 supports tick charts (just as do the previous Versions), but no, the Fidelity data adapters do not support tick charts.
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reds

#57
Will systems/programd written in WLP(WLD) 5.0 be able to be run in other applications such as QuantHouse which also uses .Net?

Thanks,


Mike
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johnjan

#58
From fidelity website "Wealth-Lab.com is an independent company not affiliated Fidelity Investments" under "Source of Strategy". Is this true?
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fastrade

#59
How can I select where to store my data files in wl5? I don't want them under document & setting. TIA
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Cone

#60
reds - No experience here, but my opinion is that it might "run", but where would the WealthScript output be directed?

jj - it's true in the "commerce" sense. Fidelity does not own and is not involved in the preparation of the content on wealth-lab.com.

fastrade - sorry, it's not optional at the moment. You'll notice that many Version 4 features are not yet available in Version 5. Some are in the making, while others could be dropped entirely to simplify the product.
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daronow

#61
Cone does that mean WL5 is available now? Where?
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dec

#62

WL5 Pro is available for download on Fidelity's website:

Download

Great that it's finally ready but I have to say I'm disappointed, too bad really.

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denoving

#63
dec:

I'm wondering why you are dissapointed?

I have not run the new tool yet, but the information is all very hopeful and upbeat. The commitment by Fidelity is very impressive. The tool appears to have been thought out with great care. The growth potential appears to be impressive.

Sure it doesn't have all the capability that has taken 5 or more years to produce at the moment, but look down the road 12 months or so, and you'll like what you see IMHO.

Making such a large proper step takes a great deal of effort. I think it's fantastic what they have done, and it's frankly unimaginable to me that you are dissapointed.

You must have had extremely high expectations. In the short run learn the new tool and it's capability, and continue to use the old supported version 4.x.

In a year or so you'll have a better platform and greater capability. Who could ask for more?

JMHO.

regards,
dan
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Cone

#64
Thanks Dan. I think you're right on the mark.

And for the advanced users that really want to dig in immediately...
Wealth-Lab 5.0 .NET Development Guide
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daronow

#65
Cone unless I'm missing something (entirely possible) the WL home page doesn't have a link to WL5, I only found it in this post. You might want to update the home page unless that's by design (at least have it link to the Fidelity website if not the actual installation EXE).

I have to say I'm impressed and disappointed. Impressed in that it seems well designed and very powerful, disappointed because it's like a Christmas present that requires some weird size K battery and you can't play with all the features right away. I can't find a futures manager -- is that not ready yet?

Dave
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Eugene

#66
Hi Dave,

The FSM is now called Symbol Info Manager (Tools menu, Ctrl-Alt-F).
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Cone

#67
<< the WL home page doesn't have a link to WL5 >>

I know it's easy to ignore if you use this site a lot (it's called "desensitation"), but you can click the LARGE banner at the top of any page on this site to go to fidelity.com. Also, the Home page has links for Wealth-Lab Pro too.

Several things were renamed: ChartScripts -> Strategies, WatchLists -> DataSets, etc. Try searching the User Guide if there's something that you can't find, but you think must exist!
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daronow

#68
In my case it's called adblock in mozilla, I think I blocked the ad a long time ago and I never see it. I shut it off and clicked on it, that still seems like the old WL 4 link. No matter, I'm off to play.

Edit: Will there be a converter to convert old FSM format export files to the new XML format, or should I roll my own?

Dave
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Cone

#69
The artwork hasn't changed there, but when you click to Dwonload, you can get either 5.0 or 4.5.

Start rolling...
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Eugene

#70
By the way, why using System.Xml or System.Data is not supported?
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daronow

#71
Eugene it seems like you don't have references to them -- to which the question is "how do you add references"? I don't see any way to do it. Or is this just not supported yet (or at all)?
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reds

#72
Hi..I downloaded & installed 5.0. I ma now trying to "Upgrade" and repeatedly get the error message,"Check your internet settings. IE Proxy Settings may need ot be changed". I turned off Norton and still the same error. I checked the manual for "upgrade" but it doesnot mention any settings tha tneed ot be changed. I can access AT Ptr and WLP 4.0. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Mike
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TraderMatrix

#73
Mike,

I had the same problem see the post below for the fix.

"Unable to login to Fidelity"

TM
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MikeCaron

#74
Do we have a date on the chartscript conversion tool? The documentation says early 2008. I can not find it in the v5 that I downloaded.

Also, it appears the screener is not out also. I can't seem to find that function. The simplest script I used was a screener.

I downloaded a fresh set of 500 daily symbols and in 10 minutes it had finished. That is impressive!

I also can smoothly scroll a minute chart with 3 indicators on it. I have never been able to do that!
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sath1

#75
I get an error while trying to run the wl pro 5 on x64 machine. does this version includes support for x64 ???

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MikeCaron

#76
What is your error?
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denoving

#77
I couldn't make wl pro 5 work on my xp64 machine either - wouldn't even install.
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sath1

#78
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fundtimer

#79
Do you have the Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 installed?
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Eugene

#80
Do we have a date on the chartscript conversion tool? The documentation says early 2008. I can not find it in the v5 that I downloaded.

Correct, it is not released yet.

Also, it appears the screener is not out also. I can't seem to find that function. The simplest script I used was a screener.

There's no Screener tool ( altogether/presently - don't ask me ).

However it's easily accomplished. Look in WealthScript Programming Guide, it's under Techniques, "Creating a Screener".
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gerd0206

#81
Hello,
@cone:
In the area charting there should be "Right space in Charts". How does it work to get additional space for drawing on the right side of the chart ?
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sath1

#82
RE: Senior Analystfundtimer
1/13/2008 6:03 AM Do you have the Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 installed?


yes - .NET 2.0 and 3.0 are installed with SP1 both.
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Eugene

#83
gerd0206


protected override void Execute()
{
PadBars( 10 );
}
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fundtimer

#84
Ok sath1; I asked because your error code is .NET related.

Only other blind suggestion is to try other Compatibility modes.
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sath1

#85
does wl5 is compatible to xp x64 ??
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fundtimer

#86
In your xp64, it should automatically detect the correct mode and fall back to w32.

To manipulate the compatibility flags, right click on the WL executable, select properties, and access the Compatabilty tab, etc...

Also, check your Applications event log for any 'human readable' errors.

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sath1

#87
trying to change compatibility mode didn't help. in the app event viewer I got the following message:


source: .NET framework 2.0 Error
EventType clr20r3, P1 wealthlabpro.exe, P2 5.0.76.0, P3 4782500b, P4 wealthlabpro, P5 5.0.76.0, P6 4782500b, P7 1d2, P8 4b, P9 system.typeinitialization, P10 NIL.
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fundtimer

#88
Well, at this point, as a test, I would try downloading and installing -->Microsoft's free C# Compiler on your X64. It uses all of the .NET resources used by WLP5. If it installs and runs without incident, then IMO, it's time to write a support ticket.

(I should add that it's a 58MB download but Microsoft servers are reasonablly fast and it's a nice aide for any C# developers.)
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sath1

#89
can wlp .net 5 work only with .net 3.0 installed ??
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Eugene

#90
No. It needs .NET 2.0 to work.
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fundtimer

#91
.Net 3.0/3.5 requires .Net 2.0, however, when .Net 3.5 is installed, it overwrites some of (but not all) of .Net 2.0 files.

.Net 1.1 and it's hotfix are no longer required if the latter are installed.
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denoving

#92
I installed Microsoft .net 2.0, and I still can't get my xp64 computer to run wealthlabpro 5.0. I get a message...wealth-labv pro has encountered a problem and needs to close.

The error signature that is transmitted to Microsoft is as follows:

Event type; clr20r3
P1: wealthlabpro.exe
P2: 5.0.76.0
P3: 4782500b
P4: wealthlabpro
P5: 5.0.76.0
P6: 4782500b
P7 1d2
P8: 4b
P9: system.typeinitialization

Any suggestions?


regards,
dan
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fundtimer

#93
Same question to you: After installing and running Microsoft's Visual C# Express, are you able to run WLP5? (see previous posts).
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denoving

#94
fundtimer:

after installing and running Microsoft's visual c# express, I am not able to run WLP5.

I was unable to run it before installing visual c# also.

any suggestions? re: xp64 problems.

Maybe I'll uninstall and reinstall it now that I have MS vis C# express installed?

regards,
dan
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fundtimer

#95
"...I'll uninstall and reinstall it..."

Yes, do so.
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sath1

#96
NO HELP even after INSTALLING C# -
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fundtimer

#97
"...NO HELP WITH INSTALLING C#..."

That's somewhat cryptic. Are you saying that you were not able to install Microsoft's Visual C# Express on your x64 system? If so, then what error(s) were generated.
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sath1

#98
sorry - I ment that after installing c# the WLP still won't work.
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sath1

#99
I even reinstalled new machine with X64 - fresh copy. and fresh .net 2.0 . and still same resaults ...
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fundtimer

#100
Then I would say it's time to request that WLP5 management look into the problem.
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Cone

#101
I'm locking down this thread. It was hijacked too many times and didn't serve it's purpose. sath1, I'll reopen your ticket that you opened and closed before it was even assigned.